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		<title>By: pete g</title>
		<link>http://veryserious.org/2007/08/24/conversation-13/comment-page-1#comment-2841</link>
		<dc:creator>pete g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe, recently the Man Vs Wild dude got outed for going to posh resorts at night. The Survivorman dude is out there by himself and has to set the camera, film the segment, move the camera, etc.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;current votes: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-2841&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe, recently the Man Vs Wild dude got outed for going to posh resorts at night. The Survivorman dude is out there by himself and has to set the camera, film the segment, move the camera, etc.
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://veryserious.org/2007/08/24/conversation-13/comment-page-1#comment-2840</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 06:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and also the dude saying &quot;#13&quot; made me think about how gross going number 13 would be.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;current votes: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-2840&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and also the dude saying &#8220;#13&#8243; made me think about how gross going number 13 would be.
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://veryserious.org/2007/08/24/conversation-13/comment-page-1#comment-2839</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 05:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished listening to it: &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One thing that sucks about the Tue. raid sirens is that when the turbonazis are seen in the distance laying waste to Oakland with their ultrakrush-hammers my reaction is going to be like &quot;oh shi-- i had better get down to Anchor Oyster bar before all of the stools are taken by the lunch crowd.&quot; Even if the alarms are sounded at like 2am on a Saturday. One time I accused Pfil of just being a collection of macros that reacted to various triggers and it is obvious to me now that I was just projecting.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t agree with Jake&#039;s comment that shows like Survival Man or Radical Catch or whatever are bogus because if there is a cameraman there it is obvious it isn&#039;t very dangerous. Like what about Vietnam or investigative reporters in the gulf or even COPS. Just because a camera is there doesn&#039;t mean everyone is safe. The reason Survival Blast sucks is because he picked up a turtle and stuck a knife into it and drank its blood or some shit. What did that turtle do to him you know? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;WRT Transformers: If you weren&#039;t stoked while Starscream was transforming back and forth into an F-15 while fighting the other jets, I don&#039;t understand how we are still friends. I mean seriously, what do we talk about? How do we relate to each other? Really, I am curious. I feel like a large basis for my understanding of the way things are is built upon the idea that that scene was awesome. Without it the world crumbles away.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;current votes: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-2839&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished listening to it: </p>
<p>One thing that sucks about the Tue. raid sirens is that when the turbonazis are seen in the distance laying waste to Oakland with their ultrakrush-hammers my reaction is going to be like &#8220;oh shi&#8211; i had better get down to Anchor Oyster bar before all of the stools are taken by the lunch crowd.&#8221; Even if the alarms are sounded at like 2am on a Saturday. One time I accused Pfil of just being a collection of macros that reacted to various triggers and it is obvious to me now that I was just projecting.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with Jake&#8217;s comment that shows like Survival Man or Radical Catch or whatever are bogus because if there is a cameraman there it is obvious it isn&#8217;t very dangerous. Like what about Vietnam or investigative reporters in the gulf or even COPS. Just because a camera is there doesn&#8217;t mean everyone is safe. The reason Survival Blast sucks is because he picked up a turtle and stuck a knife into it and drank its blood or some shit. What did that turtle do to him you know? </p>
<p>WRT Transformers: If you weren&#8217;t stoked while Starscream was transforming back and forth into an F-15 while fighting the other jets, I don&#8217;t understand how we are still friends. I mean seriously, what do we talk about? How do we relate to each other? Really, I am curious. I feel like a large basis for my understanding of the way things are is built upon the idea that that scene was awesome. Without it the world crumbles away.
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://veryserious.org/2007/08/24/conversation-13/comment-page-1#comment-2838</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 21:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man, the bar is really being raised for the comments. Thanks, Natalie. I started a &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://board.veryserious.org/forum.php?id=1&amp;page&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;message board thread&lt;/a&gt; about it.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;current votes: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-2838&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, the bar is really being raised for the comments. Thanks, Natalie. I started a <a HREF="http://board.veryserious.org/forum.php?id=1&#038;page" REL="nofollow">message board thread</a> about it.
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
		<link>http://veryserious.org/2007/08/24/conversation-13/comment-page-1#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is kind of weird and I know this is not your intention, but I noticed a couple conversations ago that as I listen to these I feel myself choosing sides, almost like I&#039;m listening to some sort of political debate and trying to decide which candidate&#039;s views are most closely aligned with my own. And every time one of you says something that that causes me to have any kind of emotional response, my general esteem for whoever said it increases or decreases according to that response and, in my head, points are awarded or subtracted from a running tally. And by the end of the podcast, whoever has the most points is the winner. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That said, the clear winner of conversation #13 is Phil. I won&#039;t go into much detail, but there were a couple of glaring strikes against Jake which I can mention:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1) I&#039;m not generally offended by vulgarity and I was willing to let the phrase &quot;pussy blood&quot; slide the first time. But the second time just seemed gratuitous and contrived. &lt;br/&gt;2) His lack of empathy regarding sharks is troubling to me. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Congratulations, Phil. And don&#039;t feel bad, Jake. I bet to some other people, you were the winner.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;current votes: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-2837&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is kind of weird and I know this is not your intention, but I noticed a couple conversations ago that as I listen to these I feel myself choosing sides, almost like I&#8217;m listening to some sort of political debate and trying to decide which candidate&#8217;s views are most closely aligned with my own. And every time one of you says something that that causes me to have any kind of emotional response, my general esteem for whoever said it increases or decreases according to that response and, in my head, points are awarded or subtracted from a running tally. And by the end of the podcast, whoever has the most points is the winner. </p>
<p>That said, the clear winner of conversation #13 is Phil. I won&#8217;t go into much detail, but there were a couple of glaring strikes against Jake which I can mention:</p>
<p>1) I&#8217;m not generally offended by vulgarity and I was willing to let the phrase &#8220;pussy blood&#8221; slide the first time. But the second time just seemed gratuitous and contrived. <br />2) His lack of empathy regarding sharks is troubling to me. </p>
<p>Congratulations, Phil. And don&#8217;t feel bad, Jake. I bet to some other people, you were the winner.
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://veryserious.org/2007/08/24/conversation-13/comment-page-1#comment-2836</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Phoebe. Thanks for the insight. I don&#039;t think I ever thought of it that way. And now I can let a little bit of guilt go.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;current votes: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-2836&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Phoebe. Thanks for the insight. I don&#8217;t think I ever thought of it that way. And now I can let a little bit of guilt go.
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		<title>By: Phoebe</title>
		<link>http://veryserious.org/2007/08/24/conversation-13/comment-page-1#comment-2835</link>
		<dc:creator>Phoebe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: the tail-end of the Superbad discussion and how these Apatow movies are about male bonds and desperate clinging to adolescence: &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The idea that this is typically  a male dilemma, the struggle against becoming an adult, is completely false. Women have just as much trouble with growing up, and that&#039;s probably why they&#039;re expending energy on emotionally immature and non-functional relationships with infantile men...So they can put off settling down themselves, but at least appear to be working towards actual adulthood.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Women want to stay young and silly just as much as men do...I think I just came up with the theme for MY new rom-com.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;current votes: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-2835&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: the tail-end of the Superbad discussion and how these Apatow movies are about male bonds and desperate clinging to adolescence: </p>
<p>The idea that this is typically  a male dilemma, the struggle against becoming an adult, is completely false. Women have just as much trouble with growing up, and that&#8217;s probably why they&#8217;re expending energy on emotionally immature and non-functional relationships with infantile men&#8230;So they can put off settling down themselves, but at least appear to be working towards actual adulthood.</p>
<p>Women want to stay young and silly just as much as men do&#8230;I think I just came up with the theme for MY new rom-com.
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://veryserious.org/2007/08/24/conversation-13/comment-page-1#comment-2832</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>quick comment on superbad and my reading of movie reviews:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I actually didnt read any reviews for Superbad before Jake and I watched it last week....my comment to him that it was &quot;long&quot; was definetely &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; from having a predetermined idea about how long the movie was or anything like that.  It was just a long movie.  Suck it, Jake.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;current votes: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-2832&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quick comment on superbad and my reading of movie reviews:</p>
<p>I actually didnt read any reviews for Superbad before Jake and I watched it last week&#8230;.my comment to him that it was &#8220;long&#8221; was definetely <i>not</i> from having a predetermined idea about how long the movie was or anything like that.  It was just a long movie.  Suck it, Jake.
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		<title>By: pete g</title>
		<link>http://veryserious.org/2007/08/24/conversation-13/comment-page-1#comment-2831</link>
		<dc:creator>pete g</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you my friends. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Every Tuesday at noon, the City of San Francisco tests its emergency alert system by sounding the sirens located at every fire house in the city for 15 seconds. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In 2005, they upgraded the system. Previously, they were only 18 sirens in operation. After 2005 there are now 65 and they have voice capabilities so the mayor can get on the line and tell the whole city to Party! He can even tell individual zones to party, well telling other zones where the party at. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One of the old 18 must have been near our house in the Richmond district, Phil, because I used to hear that shit every week. I think you had too much ear wax in your ears. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I like the sirens. If you stand in certains parts of the city, you can hear multiple sirens going off, as well as all the echoes deflection off the tall buildings and hillsides.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;current votes: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-2831&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you my friends. </p>
<p>Every Tuesday at noon, the City of San Francisco tests its emergency alert system by sounding the sirens located at every fire house in the city for 15 seconds. </p>
<p>In 2005, they upgraded the system. Previously, they were only 18 sirens in operation. After 2005 there are now 65 and they have voice capabilities so the mayor can get on the line and tell the whole city to Party! He can even tell individual zones to party, well telling other zones where the party at. </p>
<p>One of the old 18 must have been near our house in the Richmond district, Phil, because I used to hear that shit every week. I think you had too much ear wax in your ears. </p>
<p>I like the sirens. If you stand in certains parts of the city, you can hear multiple sirens going off, as well as all the echoes deflection off the tall buildings and hillsides.
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		<title>By: mikel</title>
		<link>http://veryserious.org/2007/08/24/conversation-13/comment-page-1#comment-2830</link>
		<dc:creator>mikel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you lower the bar far enough, you can step over it.&lt;p class=&quot;top-comments&quot;&gt;current votes: &lt;span class=&quot;top-comments-karma&quot; id=&quot;karma-2830&quot;&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you lower the bar far enough, you can step over it.
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